Gypsy Sam

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  I dropped TTATT to some door knockers today

  by TheStumbler in

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  two jws came to my door today and i dropped a few truths bombs on them.

  i thought i'd share my account of how the conversation went.. .

  i was in the yard doing some weeding when two gentlemen walked through the gate.

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  Gypsy Sam

  Marked. Wow! Nice work! I would have fallen back on circular reasoning too, just a couple years ago.

  However, the best thing you did, which is what I think makes the difference, is that you challenged them to research and prove the correct answer, to themselves. I often think about how when I pioneered, no one at the door, ever honestly explained their belief or politely challenged us to prove them wrong on this subject. I really feel this is why it's important for people to not just politely dismiss JW's, but have a calm, sensible question that makes them curious and pricks their brain.

  Everyone is different, but personally this would have sent me home to research, just so that I didn't appear ignorant. Nowadays, this particular subject coming up and being challenged would send a person (more so the younger JW's, who use the internet for schoolwork) straight to the computer first to research. In the U.S., evolution seems so misunderstood by many of us and it's disturbing how religion, not just JW's, can hold us back from progress.
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  FW: WHAT A SISITER SACRIFICED TO SERVE JEHOVAH

  by moomanchu in

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  witnoid e-mails goin around.. all i can say is wtf.. japan assembly experience.

  date: tue, 22 jan 2008 15:58:51 -0500. .

  convention experience from japan!

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  Gypsy Sam

  I heard this at my last convention, two years ago. Sounded idiotic then and more so now.
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  Im new and need help!

  by Batman89 in

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  2. experiences

  hello everybody, before i begin i just wanna say that i have really found alot of great posts on here that have been helpful forme , theres definitely alot of brilliant people here!.

  i am a born in jw(24 years old) ive been baptized for 7 years and was a ministerial servant for 4 years(i am no longer one).

  recently me and my parents have have woken up to ttatt(about 2 months ago).

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  Gypsy Sam

  Welcome! Congratulations on your parents and you waking up! I was in a divided marriage And while it was just one of our problems, it was not worth raising a child that way. It contributes to so much additional stress. Tread lightly in this relationship. Relish the break and use it wisely to plan your future.
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  Want to know why people accept evolution ?

  by snare&racket in

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  2. friends

  do you have questions about or want to understand evolution?

  it is a difficult concept to communicate and so if it is not explained well , it is understandable that we would dismiss it.. i sincerely want to talk with people who want to learn more or see what all the fuss is about.

  we are all learning and increasing our knowledge all the time and it is good to go over facts with critical eye.. evolution we can discuss, looking at the foundational facts and evidence, one at a time for you to go and check, agree or disagree with and return.. no pressure to accept it, you can decide for yourself, also no mocking etc of what you have to say.. .

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  Gypsy Sam

  I learned TTATT last year and have since been reading some Dawkins, Hawking, Harris etc.

  I've been going to this site http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/change/index.html when I have questions. What do you think of it?

  At first, it was overwhelming to read threads on jw.net and feel so clueless, after graduating in the 90's as valedectorian. The fact that so many school children can go through public school in the U.S. and not accept evolution, now disturbs me and I can see the danger and lack of progress it has resulted in. Once I kept reading about science the hold any religion had on me was released. I would love to help others think, not like me, but to think and QUESTION.

  Now I find it fascinating to explore my questions and would appreciate a good starting point for reading and being able to comprehend and explain evolution to a friend or family member that thinks evolution says we directly descended from an ape or that rainbows are from god.
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  I need help! Talk coming up and I need ideas fast!

  by BU2B in

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  omg i am so distressed.

  i have a talk coming up on tuesday, it is the number 3 "abiram.

  why opposing god appointed authority is tantamount to opposing god himself"!.

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  Gypsy Sam

  Good for you! Who knows who didn't show a reaction, but may be starting to think. Maybe you'll get some feedback down the road from someone waking up.

  This also serves as a great reminder to how brain dead many seem at the meeting. I'm glad I don't go.
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  what is the best line to say to a JW handing you an invite to the memorial

  by nonjwspouse in

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  i have some ideas, but want more to choose from..

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  Gypsy Sam

  No, thank you. I've researched all the manmade religions that began in the 1800's. Isn't the internet wonderful for fact checking?

  I was raised in a relgion that didn't allow questions, protected pedofiles and cherry picked scriptures to suit their sermon. Until I learned about cognitive dissonance and logical fallacies, I believed they had "the truth".

  How thankful we all can be that the internet allows us to research facts and check quotes.
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  Easy to believe the FDS gets direction from God if you do this. Did you?

  by Wasanelder Once in

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  ok how many of you while a jw took the advice to pray on a problem and then open the bible and start reading.

  did you seem to get "just the right scripture" that answered your prayer?

  they encouraged that where i was.

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  Gypsy Sam

  Botr- precisely right about Shakespeare. Exactly how I feel sometimes.
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  Doctor affirms the fact that JW religion was a massive strain on my life

  by confusedandalone in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it has been over a year since i offically stopped caring about and going to jw meetings.

  prioor to this time i had tons of responsibility that drained every once of time i had.

  like any father i had family matters to attend to.

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  Gypsy Sam

  Nice to hear positive updates!!
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  3 days ago Apostate walks into Watchtower headquarters gets a new Bible Leaves his business card

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  bo juel jensen from norway was visiting new york 3 days ago .

  he is an apostate activist and a child abuse survivor .. this is the video.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odluwssd_qy.

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  Gypsy Sam

  Nice job, you guys!!! Excellent work :)

  edited to add: I didn't hear the offensive comments that I just read about on the thread. Hopefully, it was cleaned up.

  No wish to rehash an argument on here.
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  JW.org Propaganda video " The Best Life Ever" PUKE WARNING

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8wmz3nvlek.

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  Gypsy Sam

  This was a bit sobering for me as I would have felt so encouraged and motivated by this video just a couple years ago. While I found her comment about "poor" people indicative of her still first world "I'm better than you" mindset, I can only surmise that she is cluelessly well meaning.

  After reading about the Malawi/Mexico situation, this video seems in extremely poor taste by WT. Don't the people making the video know the history?